[quote]well you ain't happy just like the moaners ain't happy, but they just happen to speak out about it rather than using all those one-liners that you listed[/quote]

Yeah, some of those one-liners like 'Adebayor is rubbish... Wenger needs to produce or go... we are rubbish...' I guess if I use THOSE one-liners that makes it all okay! ROFL!

No, you're right. I tend to have a more balanced approach. I'm not going to make myself feel better by venting about how horrible these players are -- mainly because I don't believe that we are horrible.

[quote]I really wish some of you had been around when we really were rubbish. Back in the days when we had no chance of Europe, a mid table finish and possibly a half decent run in the Cup to look forward to. Some of you lot who have only been around since Wenger have been spoilt and I won't cry to much if we lose a few of you to other things should we have a difficult season or 2 ( finishing 4th and being in the European Cup doesn't count as difficult).[/quote]

I couldn't agree more.

[quote] only 12 years ago we were just above villa. wonder what people would say if that happened now [/unquote]

Or the year that we won the league and then dropped to mid-table the following year! Heaven help us if we ever do drop from the top four! Can you imagine the mass exodus of all the 'loyal' supporters then?

itll make room for the rest of us

[quote]I really wish some of you had been around when we really were rubbish. Back in the days when we had no chance of Europe, a mid table finish and possibly a half decent run in the Cup to look forward to[/quote]

even ex-players that were part of those poor teams are criticising us, how dare they

oh and to assume that its only the newer fans moaning is way off the mark

[quote]Or the year that we won the league and then dropped to mid-table the following year! Heaven help us if we ever do drop from the top four! Can you imagine the mass exodus of all the 'loyal' supporters then?[/quote]
We only just managed fourth last year, and now we're looking good for third. An improvement I think, not the end of the world like some people seem to think!

[quote]But comparing him to Wenger? Now that's baffling.[/quote]

I'm not comparing him to Wenger, I'm just saying I have taken the rough as well as the smooth.

As for Rioch signing DB10 that's rubbish - all David Dein and the boards work. In fact I wouldn't be surpirsed if a certain Mr Wenger had said he would be a good signing in a chat with Dein

I didn't say that you told me I was not allowed an opinion Sierra. I also did not say a positive approach is wrong. What I did say is that certain people attack others because their opinion is not what the 'in crowd' believe.

from my own piont of view yes weve been a lot worse in past years, but time and football has changed and anything below the top two is dissapionting but finish thrid and have tryed ur hardest is ok.

imagine being second in the league in nov by beating our local rivals live on sky while they wear one of our old away shirts. then going on a losing streak of 8 games and only winning 2 out of the last 22 games up to now. also imagine since nov playing turgid long ball football and having the chairman and manager resigned to taking us down to the league below?


oops sorry that my local side!! and you think you have something to moan about!!

BSC I believe that is rubbish Bergkamp has previously said he signed because of Riochs vision of attacking football.


I think that people need to show a bit more respect, I wouldn't pay Club Level prices thats for sure. I can totally understand the frustration. I wouldn't blame you for dropping to silver, tbh its a pretty good way of doing things!

[quote]oops sorry that my local side!! and you think you have something to moan about!![/quote]

LOL!!! Love your humour, Harribo!

BSC, I think you may be mistaken as to who the 'in crowd' is. LOL!!! It certainly isn't the more positive folk!

[quote]BSC I believe that is rubbish Bergkamp has previously said he signed because of Riochs vision of attacking football.[/quote]

My day was terrible up until that comment. Now I can't stop laughing.

If you believe everything you read then TH would be long gone, our stadium would be empty every week and Fergie would be walking on water and then turning the water into wine.

seriously people wanna go on their forum and see what they say about that side

even has an old arsenal player in the squad allbeit injury prone

well said.

[quote]BSC, I think you may be mistaken as to who the 'in crowd' is. LOL!!! It certainly isn't the more positive folk![/quote]

Not once have I mentioned any names - they can tar and feather themselves if they want to.